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Interview by mr LAZARO SANCHES, ITC expérimenter (BRESIL).
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This is just my personnal opinion ,possible
I 'm mistaken because all the answer concerning the after death are
just supposing.I'm not writer maybe that's
neccessary to you , to "clean" and choice here what you like.
(some your questions are very difficults to answer).
This is only my personal opinion resulting
from several years of experiments enTranscommunication.
My step in this search is purely experimental
and this apart from all religions, philosophies, imposed or not.
ARTICLE 1
Answers to the interview of (Mr. lazaro Sanches) on my search in Transcommunication
1-How do you see the evolution of ITC the
last two years?
1)I
do
not have the impression that there was a great evolution with regard to
the techniques of experimentation. On the other hand what me seem
have evolve it be the fact that more and more of people all over the world
himself interest with ITC when they of discover the existence, and in any
case reject not the fact that there can be a POSSIBILITY of contact with
a beyond or why not of other dimensions.The person which discover the ITC
be in general enough open of mind.Principal be with my opinion to their
give to observe some result concrete obtain in this search and ESPECIALLY
their provide the explanation technical (simple) their allow to try themselves
the experimentation of ITC, so that they himself make a opinion with
What is an asset of the ITC put at by the fact of leaving an audible or
visible result by others, it is that (in my opinion) no matter who with
patience, perseverance and especially true a interest on this phenomenon
can without passing by an intermediary or subjecting themselves to an unspecified
philosophy imposed or not, to carry out to him even this experiment and
to forge a conviction compared to its own results.
2-Besides the obvious changes in
one’s opinion about life, what are the main objectives of our transpartners
when contacting us?
2) In
what me concern it be rather me which them contact and I have not some memory
that it me have themselves contact apart from my meeting of ITC.I have
the impression in observe the image that I receive, that the"transpartenaires
" know that it there have a possibility to himself materialize with listening
or with sight of human and that they pass in the
field of camera to himself make see and we say that it exist them also elsewhere
and that it be not a dream.Elsewhere on my image, it to me seem that they show
only it that they want really make see.He arrive to me to receive pictures or
voices.It sometimes happens to me to receive images or voices letting me think
that some of enter them as surprised, are impressionés
as us, to hear us and can be to even see us. As if by regulating our apparatuses
(in loop, feedback....)" TV,camera....."we open a gate or a window between our
dimensions (an INTRUSION). Others on the other hand seem to know the phenomenon
and pose as for a photograph (smiling,
sad, to see inquiètant...).I think that there
are two possibilities in the possible source of these images and sounds, 1 thinks)
died people, 2) other dimensions whose occupants would never have had relationship
to our plan of existence. On my images some characters are of human type,
but others have a really strange
appearance. Are presented they at the time of the meetings but us don't
know can be these two possibilities not to differentiate them.
3-We believe Science already knows
about the reality of transcontacts, but is also aware of the dangers of
spreading their conclusions (mass suicide, revolt etc). What do you think
about it? Are our scientists that dumb?
3) I think not
that the science in general have a proof that it hide as for the reality
of transcontacts, that himself be know one day (the scientist be some being
human with their defect and their qualités).But it be sure that
it be necessary not if that be prove scientifically, announce directly
with large public a survival after the death.Because of person wish know
this information be happy but it there of have some many drive back very
think concerning the death and its possible result (nothing or survival)
which have the life waste by this information not desired irreversible
and extremely Disturbing.As more I think not that the brain human be in
among us accept and wish this reality of a survival after death, but it
is not that a possibility.I do not know how each one among us after the
first moment of excitation would react as for this irreversible news data.This
is necessary to leave with each one the choice convince it self of its
possible to become, in the case of an advertisement they would not have
even any more the possibility of choosing the idea that they are made end
of their existence. That make of century that the man himself be accustom
with idea of death, some think that it be not a end, but that be only one
assumption, the end (nothing) also.I think thus that it be necessary also
much of time so that the man be ready to accept this (not possibility)
but reality (we know not what we await some other side).I respect the belief
and the religion of other, but I be myself not believe (in the direction
religious of term).
4-Do you think confrontation between the
voice patterns of a person before and after depart could be a
sure way (or, if you want, scientific)
to prove the survival of consciousness?
4) I think that the confrontation
of two voices, of a person of sound live and that receive by ITC be a track
interesting , but I believe that the confrontation of a answer specify
with a question it concern and that the experimenter don't know is best.He
be arrive to me to test in EVP in call some
people of which I know nothing.I them call on behalf of friend or of relation
and it in the goal to not create some doubt or some interference between
myself and the result at the time of réponses.I note thus all the
answer that I obtain and them transmit with person which me have give the
name of defunt with .By this technique I have have the proof that in some
case the answer be right compared to the asked question .I don't know not
myself the information relate to the deceased, it be well the proof that
somebody or something of outside with me be intervene and thus that it
there have well have contact.However, what me seem enough strange it be
that in all these case, the voice which answer be not directly that of
person targeted.That 's was always somebody which answer with its place.Exemple,
a once, after have call a person (of which I know only the first name )de
the share of a friend,I received in the medium of many voices not having
a relationship with called, a weak message saying to me " ONE cut the foot
to HIM ".The continuation I have learn of this friend that it to be of
its father which be die with hospital and which have be cut down of a leg
before unfortunately to die.So of voice foreign with person contact, answer
and especially know the course of life and of die of person called!As for
with confrontation of two voices I think that it be probable that these
voices be not necessarily the same to come of same person.Is there have
only to compare in the reality a voice (real) with that of this same person,
for example with telephone (often I recognize not with first listening
the person which me call).Therefore if they compose (make) their voice,
through our apparatuses radio,tv... I think that those must be nevertheless
different from the original .But put aside the sound of the voice can be
indeed can they be made recognize by their intonations and their specific
style of speaking.
5-What do you think the next great step
of ITC will be?
5) I believe,
that it be always compared to the evolution of hardware that we use (TV,
computer.....) that the ITC find by chance of new means of communication.The
problem be that I me see that often the hardware recent and sophisticated
give not (in any case in my search) of good resultats.TV and other camera
of today be make to avoid all problem (interference,brouillage,noise..)
Therefore all what we be useful in general for the trans-contacts.Only
the computer and the program data processing we give still the possibility
to divert these adjustment " perfect".It be thus by this way that with
my opinion the evolution of ITC himself make, by the diversion of use of
some machine and equipment.Exemple when one create a loop Larsen between
a TV and a caméra.Of more it is surely by chance that these new
adjustments or diverted hardware will be discovered, I think that in this
search the technique is not the only one causes some but that the intuition
is a significant means of discovered for new adjustments and new means
of contacts. Example, in my search on the image, I loop
(Larsen) a TV and a camera (Video feed-back).Be really not the goal of
use of these apparatus imagine by their manufacturer, on the contrary these
machine be precisely study to avoid this kind of " problem " with user
at the time of their use " normale".Himself find that in more of loop my
hardware (Larsen video), I me be see by chance (the intuition) that in
lay down my camera on the side 90° (thus
with still more some interference in the interference first) I obtain some
good results (much more some character and much more often).
6- How do you see the question of Marduk’s
time flow? Of course there is one, since facts there are
linear like ours (before, now, after).
7- How far in our past and future do they
reach us?
6) -7) I do not know,
because I never had myself of contact with marduk, or a dimension claiming
it self of this name.This known as, it is possible that of the two with
dimensions ones we communicate at any time of time.As if a " scanner "
connected us over the wavelength nearest to ours presenting itself to us
during our experiments, and this on the two sides (appealing - called)
and passed, present or futur.This question is really very complicated...
8- Since they can contact us in the future,
what’s left of our free choice?
8)I think
that one has always the free choice to believe or not what they could say
to us of the future, in general I do not have the impression that they
are very communicative on the future.They speak rather about the present
and the past, but I 'm mistaken can be?
9- Why do we keep our trans-organs after
the depart, since they are useless there (for instance, genitals, stomach
or lungs)?
10- People don’t die in Marduk, and yet
have a - say - physical body as we see in our transphotos. What
if somebody,for instance, had a serious
injury (like having his trans-head cut off)?
9) -10) Personally I believe not with
a survival in which remain of body or a body physical make of a unspecified
"matière" (substance,material ).May be recreate they them image
by the """"""thought """""" and that in this case they himself calling
to mind with them even compared to the image that they have of them even
at the time of their past life.As if one close the eye and that one imagine
its own person (it be well on a " " " thought " " " different of our bus
it himself constitute without the brain which him be matière "material").So
these body be for them of no utility but impossible to circumvent
" " to even materialize "" with them or the living.Like fossils
(remanences) to their appearance of their past of living.Be can be also
a " " explanation " " owing to the fact that somebody
have lose for example a arm of his live can himself show with image with
this same arm always present (in reconstitute)" " " mentally " " " a image
of him even with its body intact.Little like a person cut down of a member
known as feel still this member (nerve), I think thus that it must can
be have a image mental of its person with the member always present like
before (the accident), it be well on only one assumption. More over,
one realize that from time to time the images into trans-video, mainly
the old ones and most known, these images correspond often with photographs
of the " trans-partners " existing of their alive and identifiable, exp:
photographs of Constantin Raudive, Friedrich Jürgenson... As
if they were useful of this photograph as reference to reconstitute " "
mentally""because it is in my opinion ,that is more easier to be described
physically starting from a mental image (to exp:souvenir of a photograph
of oneself), because one never has the same image between that which one
even thinks of oneself and reality.
11- They said we (Stil and Lázaro)
went from and will return to Marduk. Admitting this is true, do you
think maybe all (or most) ITC researchers
are Mardukians in mission here?
11) I believe not myself have
a relationship unspecified with a life pass on Marduk, but it to me seem
that the intéret common some researcher in Transcommunication be
nevertheless strange.May be have we something in common, which we push
to seek in this field specific that be the TCI.I have me even always be
very interested and curious of phenomenon relate to mainly the beyond (ghost,
haunted, spiritism...) and always what concern a possible survival after
the death.be arrive to me on several occasions be more young of live some
event " " paranormal " " concerning these subjects (topic).I have a long
time practise the spiritism in family. For example it me be arrive twice
of " " problem " " with some electric bulb électriques, and this
during or with end of meeting of ouija and of automatic writing .The first
time at the time of my first meeting of "turning table"at a friend
home, I must have 14 year hold I have escaped some accuracy with électrocution.There
have with we some adults of which one of these person have very fear have
shout to relight the light, be the more close of lamp I be thus go in the
dark towards the standard lamp which himself find in the bottom of room.When
I have relight the lamp, a flash electric be leave of in the room).The
second time it is at home after a meeting of raising ouija,I go to light
the light one of the lamps being on a gloss with tube with the ceiling
ejected tube when I lit the light, the lamp went " " " to fly " " " to
2 meters in the part and broke on a door. After they is some facts
and not being myself very gifted for the automatic writing I said myself
that there was surely something of special between the spirits, electricity
and me.
So when I heard for the first time that people corresponded with
the deceased ones using machines
(will electrique) ( magnétophone,tv,caméra...). I
am tell to me that I was myself to test!
Of more I have the memory to have before even to hear speak of ITC,
fact of session of spiritisme in leave function a tape recorder in the
drawer of table where we expérimentions.A the time I have nothing
hear, put with share the cracking and the blow strike on the table.But
I have always think that one day somebody arrive to them record or to them
see on a apparatus of style of a téléviseur.Be interesting
to see if some other researcher in ITC have them also some " " " sign "
" " of this kind, them push with expérimenter.But what me make say
that it there have really something of special in the fact that I
managed from there to try out the TRANS-VIDEO, it is that before even being
informed of the existance of the ITC, I occupied of employment (professionel)
rather various.Some month before to try out myself, I have the chance unhoped-for
to return in a company of post-production video, where as I be informed
no knowledge in this domain.Some months after I hear to speak for the first
time of Transcommunication and because of my new work I have as by chance
the opportunity to use some video tape recorder professional to analyze
my first images.I have really feeling that one me have guide (from over
side) without my knowledge to try this experiment.I have the impression
to have always know that I carry out one day this kind of search.
12-Please be free to use our space to leave
a message to Brazil researchers.
12) I
be certain that all peoples with the desire to seek, can obtain some result
(more or less significant) in ITC It be finally the possibility for the
more great number of people to obtain them even the proof that they research.I
think that the " belief " (apart from all religion, but in the direction
of goal of experimentation) be very significant for this kind of search,
and that the doubt be a brake with obtaining of résultats.I have
make myself the expérience.I have now more no doubt as for the reality
of phenomenon, but it me arrive however still to me pose some question
on the possible source ,origin of this messages (voices and images).I know
the Brazil,I go three months in 1985, and I know that the Brazilian
ones by their culture, naturally open and are accustomed to supernatural
in general and with this kind of phenomena in particular (Spiritism, TCI).I
am thus sure that on your countrie there are many researchers who obtain
results and which it is also in particular of on your countrie, by the
great number of experimenters and people interested by the ITC and SPIRITISM
that an evolution and new discoveries in ITCcan arrive
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ARTICLE 2
Réponses interview (mr lazaro Sanches ) sur mes expérimentations en Transcommunication video
1- Where do you believe your images come
from?
1) I believe and
I hope that my image come from beyond.However some of these image come with
my opinion of other dimensions.The character appear generally, have the human
appearance .Sometime it there have even some animal almost always some dog,
it be necessary say that I have much of affection for these " good friend of
human".I consider thus these image like come of beyond and thus of person or
of animal who have a life terrestrial in the past. With regard to the characters
what makes me say that they lived in our dimension, it is that put besides their
appearance human one realize some times that it are attached from their accéssoires
vestimentary to one time (past or présent).Example more strange which
I saw, is the image of a German soldier appearing of
profile (photographs link 32 page 5 of my site). That which me make say that
it be German it be the form characteristic of its helmet, its face be not very
visible, but one see very well the coat " gabardine"that resemble much with
coat of winter that carry the soldier German during the second world war .There
have also a series of 3 photograph (file January 1999) where one see 2 character
make them think with some soldier French (first or second world war?). They
have carry a kepi " french military hat", and one of them carry a coat of
winter whose collar seems turned up.Of these characters are " identifiables"à
one time by their " look", small moustache style 1900,
bowler hat melon, costume, tie, glasses.....All the
accessory be always on the character, as if they make party of their body, which
me bring closer of it that I say in another paragraph of this text that
they recreate a image " " mental " " of them even (by the " " remember " " for
example of photograph of them even or of their image in a mirror)and that they
with associate inevitably the accéssory present " " mentally"". On there
see also some body, naked, so far now only female,
what show although they be of origin human! Certain times they show for example
their hand like making us a sign.For
the others, some as of the these faces are not appearance human.They have refer
only more or less of them, but they are very stranges.For
the latter I think that they come from other dimensions and that they never
were in relationship or contact to our plan of existence.
2- Did they send you images of their cities
or surroundings?
2) I have never receive some
image show of unspecified landscape or even of city, all the image that
I obtain have not basic (background), in any case nothing of matériality.I
have the impression that they float in a world
of nothing, or on some other photograph the background
be consist of a element cloudy, vaporous or fluide.I have the impression
that they be all mix the one with other in a large
ocean fluidic difficult to describe with our mots.When some analysis of
image, one himself realize that a face precis be very often consist of
very many other character.During of analysis of photograph, more
I accentued the details set up with the data-processing (example
with the program photoshop) one sees very well this phenomenon of overlap
" of mixtures " of various the characters.More one accentuates this adjustment
more one returns in " a thickness of the image " and where there was a
precise character, another appears while being formed with the assistance
of the features of the first. Some time the same character be at
beginning of face, and by the adjustment in question appear progressively
with 3/4 up to have be of profil.So in (moving) mouvement, it be
some image by image but on only one photograph of departure and either
linearly like for the reading normal of a video, but in-depth and in a
image fixed!That make think at something same holography, or even
have it that one see at the time of echography of a baby in the belly of
its mothere.More the doctor to press the " scanner " on the belly of the
mother more you see details and this until A to see the various bodies
of the baby.This' is a little the same thing during the analysis of my
images .
3- Did they send you pre-recorded material,
like a film, for instance?
4- Do you think it is possible for them
to take one picture outside Marduk, then send it to you?
3) - 4) I do not know if the
images that I receive are preregistered or " " " live""", but why not?That
would be can be the reason for which the majority of the faces have a photographic
framing as at the time of a pose like for one photo.But personally
I think rather than these images its " " live " " if not there would be
surely other things showed.The result (visible) of the looping of the camera
and TV makes me think has " " a aspirator of images trans-dimentionnel
" " opening a gate between our respective dimensions.
5- Is it possible for your transpartners
to get pictures from the past?
6- And from the future?
5) - 6) I did not have an example of
image coming from past.However from many images which I obtained showed of the
characters pretences to belong to times différent.Which does not want
to say in so far as they come from the past. It may be that these characters
present themselves has the image with their clothes and a general
look corresponding has the time has which they lived on our Earth.Certains
of them have the style average age (long hair, mustache falling and even on
one from these images one can see of them one which carries a crown on the head).
Others have styles years 1920, 1940...... It be the impression that I
have when I observe the detail vestimentary (cap, costume...) and physics (hair,
mustache...) of these characters.Which me make say that it be not some image
of past, it be that all these character appear generally " tally
" as for a photograph, therefore prepare "" in the instant"".If these image
come from past I think which be more vary as for positioning of these people
in the image and that especially they take not the pose owing to the fact that
the event (image) be already some past,and that thus they have not knowledge
of recording . But I think that one cannot speak about past, present or future
when they are contacts multidimentionnels, space and time not having has my
opinion nothing commun run between these universes multiples.May be as I said
previously (answers 6 & 7) we connect mutually by the conjunction of our
dimensions, through spacio-temporal window, opened by the phenomenon of infinite
loop (video Larsen) created by the camera and the TV (like a scanner)?.
7- Can you ask them to send you a particular
image, or they are the only ones to decide?
7) Until to date,I did not have (with
certainty) precise images characters whom I would have myself calling.All those
which appear with the screen are unknown.They are to me there at the moment
when I experienced, they must thus be the only decision makers with regard to
their visualization with the image.I have some regular "visitor" besides, who
often show themselves and this in months of interval.Exemple this man with moustache
of old style that I present on my site (page files of the 01/11/98). It
appeared to to me (more where less clearly) of many times, but twice
very clearly, the first time in 1993 and the last time in 1998.I do not
know it but there must be a reason well so that he is so often present at my
meetings.
8- have you ever been requested to
explain your research by a scientist or a government agent?
8) Not, I have never have some
contact with some scientist where some agent of no gouvernement.However
and can be as on some other Web site web, I have raise on my statistics
of visit, that several time of visitor come of government various, of university
and military, mainly of army American (us navy, us air force...).So can
be that this subject that be the ITC interest these government agency?or
well be this quite simply the chance(haphazardly) because in word" transcommunication
"it there have "communication" and that I'm sure of be on the interest.
9- How long do your sessions last?
9) Generally my meeting some
trans-video last 40 with 50 minutes.Which me enable to test various adjustment
because it be very difficult to keep the good adjustment in continu.The
disadvantage be that then it be necessary MUCH of time to analyze it video
thus realise.At each meeting I obtain several hundred of image moreover
where less good quality.In general this research task of image (image by
image) me take approximately 8 day at a rate of 2 or 3 hours by day.Be
exhaust, because then after selection, I must them filter one by one (luminance,
contrast, stressing) to obtain the maximum of detail often hide where little
visible at the time total approximately 3 working weeks to obtain
the final results.
10- Do you use the same schedule so they
can sync our earthly time?
15- Do you use any kind of ritual (like
praying) before or after your sessions?
10) I do not have an hour precise
of experimentation, when I feel that the moment is favourable and especially
when I want of it, I connect my hardware and I enregistre.They are however
always present and this without their to have given return "rendez vous"
nor to have been called them.
15) I
do not have either a " ritual " prayer or others, I do all that very "
naturally ".
11- Did your reception improve through the
years?
11) Yes and not, at the beginning
at the time of my first results I obtained some " " very beautiful images"",
but in quantity limited on the whole of the séances.Today
they are MUCH more numerous, but I did not find " " very beautiful " "
images, they are interessantes but less clear than before.I thinks than
that comes from " " tiredness " " from my hardware, camera and especially
TV.I am, despite everything , nevertheless satisfied with the images which
I currently obtain, and in particular by the high frequency of appearance
of these characters.
12- Do you feel any changes in your room
during your sessions (e.g. decrease of temperature)?
12) Not with regard to the transone
feel just a great tiredness after the recordings in EVP (AUDIO transcommunication).
13- People say frame-by-frame advancing
to search images during a long period may damage your equipment .
Is this true?
13) Yes, it is certain, but
there is not at the present time other technique of visionnage( viewing),
except can be the ordinateur.Il is necessary a very large hard disk however
to record and to read video on a computer.I thus thinks that the video
tape recorder is still a good tool.I have so far broken only one camera
and it is not only because of the ITC that it broke down.
14- Do you believe anxiety or doubt can
spoil a transcontact?
14) In what me relate to, the
anxiety where the tiredness for example, change nothing with my result
in trans-video.That be not the same thing with regard to the EVP (ITC AUDIO),
in this experimentation (audio) the factor mental where psychic be in my
case much more present and sensitive for the obtaining of résult.Then
that certain day I obtain some voices, another day I not record nothing
and that in spite of some effort of concentration significant and a duration
of experimentation more long than have the habitude.If somebody doubt,I
be certain than it have no chance of résult. However I think that
the step to test an experimentation proves that the person believes despite
her doubts has a possibility of success, if not it would not even try to
obtain the proof.
16- What do you think the next step in ITC
image reception will be?
16) I think that in the future,
if we are likely to find the good adjustments and the adapted technique,
we will be able to record images in mouvements.Le problem today is that
the speed of appearance of the characters is too fast.
It be necessary can we adjust on the speed of their dimension, a
little as for a projector of cinema (if the speed be too slow one see only
one series of photograph fixed (it be the case of my result today), but
when the projector accelerate and that it turn have the good speed the
photograph fixed become movie ).I have think test to use a strobe lighting
"stroboscopique" have speed flexible, direct towards the screen of TV to
seek and create the flash (resulting of loop Larsen video) and it texture
some image me allow to me bring closer of their speed and thus to stabilize
their image uninterrupted on
* ( It
is done, and that functions rather well ).
17- Are all the transpartners you taped
friendly?
17) They are rather
often smiling, on some photographs they appear as"very
living"on has the impression to read their feelings
on their faces.The only bad contacts " agrèssif "that I had are in AUDIO
transcommunication (insults, threats....) but that
never impressed me!
18- Did all of them have human shape?
18) They do not have a whole a human
form, some could make us think of the extraterrestrial
ones, others are closer
to the animal. But some of these faces are recorded during their formation
and that is not being complete at this time, they thus do not appear at this
time precise to us of human form.
19- Did you ever use computers in transcontacts
(as receiving image files directly or scanning taped photos)?
19) Not
I have never receive some image on line on my computer, but it be possible
to use the screen of computer for the trans-video, in connect the camera
have a card of acquisition video and in film the computer screen to create
the loop.There have also the possibility to use various program informatique
in the same time than one record.I have not still test this technique because
I have that only onecomputer.I think that that must be bad for the computer
because it be nevertheless much more fragile than one tv.But it be a idea
than I test soon.
* (I
carried out this experiment
in JUNE 99
and that
functions perfectly! )
I realize also recently, of the experiments
of video ITC on line on internet by
using to my WEBCAM
.
20- Can we somehow help them to produce
energy and enhance transcontacts (for instance using orgonic energy through
Reich boxes or using pyramidal structures)?
20) With
my opinion it is each experimenter who must find his own accessories being
able to help to improve the contacts with the additional transpartenaires.The
own accessory of one a researcher are not nécéssairement
adapted to another researcher. We sees it well with regard to the supports
its in AUDIO ITC, some use the radio, others will have better results with
for example the water noise.........
PS: I practises
this search in an only experimental direction, apart from all religions or philosophies.
All this is only my personal opinion, resulting from a few
years of experiments in Transcommunication.
The main thing being I think, to form to oneself even his
opinion by the personal experimentation.
There is still many things has to find in this enthralling
search
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P.JOUINI
( 01/10/99 )
PASCAL JOUINI
WEB site : http://pjouini.club.fr/menugb.htm
Transcommunication Video & Audio (
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02/16/2000
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